We take a look as best we can at how this particular guy goes about his business and gets the cash on.
Our man on the inside works for him as a putter-on at weekends and was good enough to give us a rundown of events on Saturday.
Meet P early morning gives me a minimum of 5k in packs of a thousand, we receive a selection through WhatsApp; Horse, price, time, bookmaker, place bet await another selection.
There are three of us po’s who work in York on average we place 15k of bets Saturday, I did Kempton bets, one Carlisle, other Muss.
From leaving home to getting back is around 3hrs paid £100 if I’m asked to pick up winnings Sunday its £50 and doesn’t take long, on good weeks we get a bonus. If I do both days I earn more than my take home pay for working all week.
Pretty hassle free in the bookies, though they always phone someone before they accept the bet.
So you place the whole bet with one bookie and they always take it, yes haven’t been knocked back yet except when the price has gone.
Went in one bookies and I vaguely knew the guy behind the counter, as I was leaving he said, I know it’s not your bet.
P says he has other operations in London and Manchester.
P has asked me to work the Chester meeting with him, fully inclusive food, drink, hotel and members enclosure.
He also asked me to work full time for him when I finish my apprenticeship, says if things change I can always go back to being an Electrician.
Does he mind if you back the horses, no he encourages me and wants me to make money, “as long as my bets are on first, do what you like after that”?
Was he disappointed with the small loss at Kempton, no? I met him in the club later in the day to handover betting slips and they’d had a good day at the other two meetings, free drinks all round plus bonus.
We had our first look at his selections Saturday albeit only a third of them but we are looking into ways of getting them all.
Our man sends the text after he’s placed the bet so we in no way compromise P’s business.
We can’t really back the info to a large degree as we don’t know how long it will last but while it does we should learn plenty.
For me, the best way if watching something is to take part. Otherwise come Saturday night is be to busy to check what was happening.
So I went with each one for the full 300 and 400s ew...pence that is, not £s.
I started 3 seasons ago at £4 and then £6. I had confidence in you last year for £60.
With this I don't think I could do even a tenth, 30 and 40 ew just like that. Yet it may not last long enough to see how it goes.
And it's the ew I'm not keen on. But I suppose they are lumping on, you've got to trust that that is the most successful option.
Any ideas anyone?